Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of 1000 highest ranked universities in global rankings
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The result was delete. Salvio giuliano 21:27, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
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Article includes well over half of the ranked lists produced by the ranking companies, in violation of copyright (per WP:TOP100: 'A complete or partial recreation of "Top 100" or similar lists where the list has been selected in a creative manner.'). These have been combined and re-ranked in a way that appears to be WP:OR, particularly when it comes to treatment of institutions not included in all four rankings or only given a range of rankings rather than a single rank, where the calculation of the average used to rank these institutions is not a case of simple mathematics. The combination of global ranking lists in this manner also does not appear to be something that has been discussed in WP:RS, and the selection of the four global rankings used in this calculation appears to be arbitrary. I note that this page survived a deletion discussion in 2018, with an outcome of no consensus, when it contained the top 50 from three global rankings, but it has been quite drastically expanded since then. In short, once the copyright-infringing content and the original research is removed, this article will be empty. Robminchin (talk) 21:01, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Education and Lists. Shellwood (talk) 21:09, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - The WP:OR component is surmountable with editing, but I'm having a hard time seeing how it doesn't run afoul of WP:TOP100. Surprised the previous AfD didn't really get into that rule, as people tend to err on the side of caution when it comes to NFCC... — Rhododendrites talk \\ 21:42, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. Clear violation of copyright policy. Barnards.tar.gz (talk) 22:15, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete, a list that's ill-advised at so many levels, but it's quite obviously stuck between the Scylla of being a copyright infringement if it's taken from the sources, or the Charybdis of being original research if it isn't. There is no way to remedy this. Elemimele (talk) 22:22, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- With references like that, you must've gone to a university with a Wikipedia University Rating™ of 20 or better! — Rhododendrites talk \\ 22:24, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete: There are few dumber things for anyone to pay any attention to than whole-university rankings. It's utterly absurd to quantify and then combine and compare aspects of teaching and reseach across undergraduate and graduate programs and across disciplines. Not to mention the circular idiocy of heavily weighting "reputation". Truly worthless original research to then simply average the nonsense these organizations come up with. Reywas92Talk 22:26, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete I would expect this list to actually rank 1,000 universities, but it seems to give up at #261, so it's not comprehensive, it's a copyright violation, and many of the schools have begun to refuse to do these surveys (or been removed because of some juicing a la the 1998 homerun race), so the numbers will eventually begin to exclude those schools. Nate • (chatter) 22:34, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- Comment This was incorrectly listed at the title Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of 1000 highest ranked universities in global rankings (2nd nomination). The previous AfD in 2018 was under the title World University Rankings 2015. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 23:25, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete If it's copyvio, it has to go. The list ending at 260 something seems to be OR, as it calculates an average that isn't otherwise used outside of this article. Oaktree b (talk) 00:33, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
- Rename to something like List of universities considered highest-ranking in the world and reduce to perhaps the top fifty. BD2412 T 00:48, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete Its based on "reputation surveys" and other nonsense. Bias and misleading, no encyclopedic value. Dream Focus 04:11, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete The "ranking" offered is pure WP:SYNTH, derived based on a calculation of averages of selected rankings, which themselves have completely different inclusion criteria. Each of these ranking systems all have their own arbitrary and easily gamed criteria. The whole thing is a mess not worthy of retention. Alansohn (talk) 04:51, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:TNT; this article contains countless WP:SYNTH and WP:COPYVIO violations. Partofthemachine (talk) 22:50, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- Rename or draft per @BD2412:. It should have form and shape similar to Historical rankings of presidents of the United States but evyrithin what has copyvio issues should be delted from main space, as soon as it possible. Dawid2009 (talk) 06:02, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. WP:OR. A synthesis can perhaps be included in college and university rankings, but this is not worthy to keep as a separate article given WP:TOP100. Sun8908 Talk 17:38, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 13:25, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
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